Two Heads Are Better Than One
What happens when two former Head Teachers finally say what they really think?
Candid stories, insider laughs, and honest reflections from life at the top of Scottish independent schools. Smart, funny, and refreshingly human — because two Heads really are better than one.
What happens when two former Head Teachers finally say what they really think?
Candid stories, insider laughs, and honest reflections from life at the top of Scottish independent schools. Smart, funny, and refreshingly human — because two Heads really are better than one.
Episodes

Wednesday May 20, 2026
Discussing Character Education with Kenny Primrose
Wednesday May 20, 2026
Wednesday May 20, 2026
“The most important stuff in life cannot be measured.” — Kenny Primrose
What is character education — and should schools be responsible for shaping the values, virtues and personalities of young people?
Rod and Cameron are joined by teacher and character education specialist Kenny Primrose for a wide-ranging conversation on leadership, kindness, morality, resilience and the true purpose of education.
They explore whether schools should actively develop character traits such as courage, honesty, integrity and compassion, or whether these qualities are formed primarily through family and life experience. What is the role of extracurricular activity, leadership in schools, school culture, Curriculum for Excellence, teamwork, trauma-informed education and the challenge of defining what it means to be a “good human being” because school is about far more than exam results.
Along the way, the episode touches on:
Character education in schools
Scottish education and school leadership
Human flourishing and wellbeing
Kindness as a school value
Personal development and resilience
Trauma, trust and early intervention
Public speaking confidence and personal growth
The impact of assemblies and school culture
Education philosophy and moral development
With some deeply personal reflections from Rod, Cameron and Kenny about shyness, confidence, leadership, failure, public speaking and the experiences that shaped their own character over time all three reflect on how they have became the teachers they have.
So, if you’re interested in education, leadership, teaching, school culture, wellbeing, child development or the future of Scottish education, this is an episode packed with insight, debate and reflection
And if you want to find out more about Kenny…..
Kenny Primose Online
The Examined Life podcast by Kenny
We'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and questions about schools and education today. Email or send us a voice note to rodandcameron@gmail.com

Monday Apr 27, 2026
Scottish Election 7 May Special: Education Manifestos Deep Dive
Monday Apr 27, 2026
Monday Apr 27, 2026
With the Scottish Election on 7 May fast approaching, education policy should be front and centre in the political debate—yet it often takes a back seat to issues like the cost of living and healthcare. In the last Two Heads Are Better Than One podcast before the election, Rod Grant and Cameron Wyllie conduct a detailed analysis of each party’s Scottish education manifesto, comparing how the Conservatives, Greens, Labour, Liberal Democrats, Reform UK, and SNP plan to tackle what many see as a crisis in Scottish schools.
In this podcast hear directly from Stephen Kerr for the Conservatives, Paul O'Kane from Labour, Willie Rennie for the Liberal Democrats and Malcolm Offord for Reform UK.
We explore major themes including Curriculum for Excellence reform, the widening attainment gap in Scotland, Additional Support Need provision, classroom discipline, teacher recruitment, and the future of Scottish school exams. Crucially, we’ll also examine how realistic and deliverable these policies are in practice.
We'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and questions about schools and education today. Email or send us a voice note to rodandcameron@gmail.com

Wednesday Apr 08, 2026
Rod and Cameron’s Education Manifesto
Wednesday Apr 08, 2026
Wednesday Apr 08, 2026
Ahead of the Scottish election in May, in this episode of Two Heads Are Better Than One, Rod Grant and Cameron Wyllie discuss their personal educational priorities and manifesto for Scottish schools, focusing on autonomy, accountability, curriculum, behaviour, and funding. They explore practical reforms and policy ideas to improve Scottish education ahead of the upcoming election.
Key Topics of discussion
School autonomy and governance
Role and effectiveness of Education Scotland
Classroom discipline and behavior management
Mainstreaming and special educational needs
Funding and resource allocation in education
Teacher training reform and practical experience
Curriculum for Excellence critique and alternatives
Extracurricular activities and student engagement
Keywords
Scottish education, school reform, autonomy, curriculum, behaviour, funding, education policy, teacher training, extracurricular activities, education Scotland

Tuesday Mar 17, 2026
Additional Support Needs: Challenges & Solutions
Tuesday Mar 17, 2026
Tuesday Mar 17, 2026
In the latest episode of the podcast, "Two Heads are Better Than One", hosts Rod Grant and Cameron Wyllie explore the complexities of additional support needs in Scottish schools, including policy, inclusion, and the impact on teachers and parents. Special guest Leisa Randall, Educational Psychologist, provides expert insights into the challenges and opportunities for improving support for all children.
We'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and questions about schools and education today. Email or send us a voice note to rodandcameron@gmail.com

Friday Feb 27, 2026
Classroom Capers: Tales of Mischief and Mayhem
Friday Feb 27, 2026
Friday Feb 27, 2026
In the latest episode of the podcast "Two Heads are Better Than One," hosts Rod Grant and Cameron Wyllie look at the funny side of teaching. Discover hilarious and unexpected moments from teachers' classrooms, school inspections, and student antics. Join us for a collection of amusing anecdotes that reveal the humorous side of education and the clever ways kids sometimes outsmart their teachers.
We'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and questions about schools and education today. Email or send us a voice note to rodandcameron@gmail.com

Tuesday Jan 13, 2026
Bullying
Tuesday Jan 13, 2026
Tuesday Jan 13, 2026
In the latest episode of the podcast "Two Heads are Better Than One," hosts Rod Grant and Cameron Wyllie tackle the tough topic of bullying in schools. Discover what it is, what it isn't, and how we can all play a part in creating a safer environment for our kids.
#StopBullying #SchoolSafety #TwoHeadsPodcast
We'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and questions about schools and education today. Email or send us a voice note to rodandcameron@gmail.com

Wednesday Dec 17, 2025
Rod and Cameron’s Christmas Special
Wednesday Dec 17, 2025
Wednesday Dec 17, 2025
In the latest episode of the podcast "Two Heads are Better Than One," hosts Rod Grant and Cameron Wyllie discuss all things Christmas; from our favourite Nativity stories to what goes on behind the scenes at staff Christmas parties, and so much more! Get into the Festive spirit with some joyous reminiscing of Christmas time in schools.
We'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and questions about schools and education today. Email or send us a voice note to rodandcameron@gmail.com

Monday Nov 24, 2025
What makes a great lesson?
Monday Nov 24, 2025
Monday Nov 24, 2025
"Everybody should start at the same point."
In this episode of 'Two Heads are Better Than One', Rod Grant and Cameron Wyllie sit down and chat with education expert with Bruce Robertson, CEO of Next Level Educational and former head teacher at Berwickshire High School.
Starting with some listener feedback and teaching stories, like the time 5 P7 pupils were excluded on day for scraping and asking should you suspend pupils for swearing at teachers?
But the key theme to this conversation is what constitutes a great lesson?
Bruce shares insights from his extensive experience in education, emphasising the need for clarity in curriculum, the significance of engaging lessons, and the necessity of professional development for teachers. They highlight the challenges and opportunities within the educational landscape, advocating for a more informed and collaborative approach to teaching and learning.
Key Insight:
Clarity is key! Teachers must be clear about what students need to learn to foster real understanding.
Key Takeaways:
A great lesson starts with clear learning intentions.
Engagement in lessons is essential for student interest.
Curriculum clarity is vital for effective teaching.
Differentiation should focus on outcomes, not just ability groups.
Success in learning is a key motivator for students.
Professional reading helps teachers make informed decisions.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
02:47 Discipline and Consequences in Schools
05:56 Restorative Practices vs. Sanctions
09:01 Parental Support and School Decisions
11:49 Feedback and Perspectives on Education
16:46 What Makes a Great Lesson?
29:37 Curriculum Clarity and Content
38:50 Final Tips for Effective Teaching
We'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and questions about schools and education today. Email or send us a voice note to rodandcameron@gmail.com

Tuesday Nov 04, 2025
Violence in Schools
Tuesday Nov 04, 2025
Tuesday Nov 04, 2025
"If young people don’t learn that actions have consequences, we’re failing them — not just now, but in their future lives.”
Former head teachers Rod Grant and Cameron Wyllie ask how do you tackle violence and abuse in the classroom? Violent incidents in Scottish schools have risen by 53% according to the latest EIS report. In this episode of Two Heads Are Better Than One, they discuss:
Why many teachers avoid reporting abuse — and how vague definitions of “violence” distort the data.
Rod and Cameron share vivid, sometimes humorous memories of corporal punishment in their own schooldays — the “tawse,” cold-water regrets, and the accidental self-belting teacher.
A serious discussion on balance: how Scotland moved from physical punishment to restorative practice — and why many educators say the new approach is failing.
The crisis of classroom safety: from verbal aggression to shocking stories of violence, and the toll on teachers’ mental health.
Exploring solutions — should disruptive pupils be taught online or in specialist units? Should there be clearer sanctions for violence?
Why “mainstreaming” may have gone too far — and how it’s affecting both learning and teacher morale.
A call to action for teachers and school leaders to share their real experiences, anonymously if necessary, to inform the debate on reform.
We'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and questions about schools and education today. Email or send us a voice note to rodandcameron@gmail.com

Friday Oct 17, 2025
What Makes a School Great?
Friday Oct 17, 2025
Friday Oct 17, 2025
What makes a school truly great? Join Rod Grant and Cameron Wyllie as they explore the art and craft of teaching, the power of teacher autonomy, and the balance between discipline and care that shapes thriving school communities.
In this episode, they dive into:
Why teaching is more than just a science—it’s a craft fueled by passion.
How strong relationships and collegiality impact both teachers and students.
The importance of a knowledge-rich curriculum and structured environments.
How extracurricular activities support student growth and development.
Whether you’re a teacher, school leader, or education enthusiast, this episode offers insightful strategies and real-world reflections on creating schools where everyone thrives.
Listen, learn, and discover what makes a school great.
Key Takeaways:
Teaching is both an art and a craft.
Autonomy fuels great teaching.
A positive school ethos blends structure with care.
Students flourish in knowledge-rich, community-minded environments.
Chapters:00:00 – Introduction to School Leadership Insights00:54 – The Art and Craft of Teaching04:14 – The Role of Collegiality in Teaching08:22 – The Importance of Teacher Autonomy10:11 – Teacher Training and Qualifications12:32 – The Need for Practical Teacher Training16:46 – Creating a Positive School Ethos20:04 – Discipline and Pastoral Care in Schools25:14 – The Knowledge-Rich Curriculum27:51 – Extracurricular Activities and Student Development
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